Now a days some people have misconception that God is formless in Veda-s , so they ask why do Hindus worship Lord Ram as the original personality of godhead? This misconception that God is formless is totally wrong. So for removing those doubts this page is created.

The supreme personality in Veda-s is itself known by Purusa which means God is not formless, although there are two aspects of that Supreme Purusa: one Avyakta form and second Vyakta-form having Naam and Rupa, though infinite in qualities.

Avyakta-form (un-manifested or formless) of Lord Ram is present in all being, in everything thats why he is known as Vishnu. While his Vyakta-form (Swayam-Rupa) is even superior over his Avyakta-form.

Now we will here consider those verses from Veda-s where God,having form or character of formed has been clearly eulogized.

Q. Is there any proof of Avtaar-Vaad of God i.e. God taking incarnations from Veda-s?

Answer. Yes there are clear proofs of Avtaar-Vaad (Supreme personality taking incarnations) in Vedas. Lets see first Veda-s approving Avtaara-concept that God incarnates himself in different ways, so that we can talk about Lord Ram in Veda-s.

Proof:-

एषो ह देवऽप्प्रदिशो नु सर्वाऽपूर्व्वो ह जातुऽसऽउ गर्ब्भेऽअन्तऽ॥
सऽएव जातः स जनिष्यमाणः प्प्रुत्यङ्जनास्तिष्ठ्ठति सुर्वतो मुखः॥
प्रजापतिश्चरति गर्ब्भेऽअन्तरजायमानो बहुधा व्विजायते।
तस्य योनिम्परिपश्यन्ति धीरास्त्तस्म्मिन्न्हतस्त्त्थुर्ब्भुवनानि व्विश्श्वा॥

[Yajurveda-samhita 32.4.1 and 31.19]

O Human beings! That Deva, Supreme soul who permeates this whole world from all directions, earlier manifested inside of a womb; He is the one who gives birth to all and is situated facing all directions! The Prajaapati, that Supreme soul dwells inside the womb and though unborn yet manifests in diversified ways!

So Supreme Lord manifests himself in different way. So aforementioned verses approve the incarnation concept of Supreme Purusa.

Shri Ram is eternal Vishnu (Maha-Vishnu) as per Shri-Mad Valmiki Ramayana and other scriptures.

Supreme Purusa Shri Ram in Veda-s
Since Ramayana is Veda-s self-same Veda-s, so scriptures says There is nothing beyond Ramayana (manifestation of Veda-s).

नास्ति रामायणात्परम्॥ [स्कन्द पुराण उ० ख० रा० मा० अ० 5/21]

No other scripture exists beyond RAmAyaNa!

वेदवेद्ये परेपुंसि जाते दशरथात्मजे।
वेदः प्राचेतसादासीत् साक्षाद् रामायणात्मना ।।
तस्माद्रामायणं देवि! वेद एव न संशयः ।।

(Agastya-Samhita and Manglacharan of Valmiki-Ramayana)

Supreme being is known through only Vedas. When that Supreme being born as son of Dasratha (Śrī Rām) in Ayodhya, that time all Vedas manifested themselves through the mouth of sage Valmiki, the son of sage Prachetus, directly as the Ramayana. Therefore O' Devi, there is no doubt that Ramayana is Vedas itself.

Now we will see verse from the most ancient Rig-Veda where Shri Ram is clearly eulogized (as supreme personality).

प्र तद्विष्णुः स्तवते वीर्येण मृगो न भीमः कुचरो गिरिष्ठाः ।
यस्योरुषु त्रिषु विक्रमणेष्वधिक्षियन्ति भुवनानि विश्वा ।। ( ऋग्वेद १।१५४।२)

Whole universe is situated in three steps of Lord Vishnu. Whole world praises (स्तवते) the valour of Lord Maha-Vishnu (i.e. Shri Ram) as like fierce, dreadful and mighty animals living in caves of forest praises his valor.

This RigVeda 1.154.2 clearly says that this Vishnu is Maha-Vishnu Lord Ram whose Valor was praised by mighty (भीमः) Sugreeva living in mountainous cave (गिरिष्ठाः), Hanuman Ji, Angad Ji, Vali and even by brutal animals like Maricha (in disguised form of brutal animal).

Question arises: How does verse RigVeda 1.154.2 make Lord Shri Ram the almighty?

The verse RigVeda-1.154.2 clearly says Lord Shri Ram is the supreme personality as this verse says:-

1) Whole universe is situated in just three steps of Lord (त्रिषु विक्रमणेष्वधिक्षियन्ति भुवनानि ).

2) Whole world praises (स्तवते) the valour of Lord Maha-Vishnu i.e. Ram.

3) Even fierce, dreadful and mighty animals living in caves of forest praises his valor. (स्तवते वीर्येण मृगो न भीमः कुचरो गिरिष्ठाः)


See how Ramayana expounds this Rigvedic-verse 1.154.2:-

Shri Hanuman praising Valor and Glory of Lord Ram in front of Ravana
Similarly HaumAn ji who was living in mountainous-cave with Sugreeva declares emphatically the glory of RAma as follows:-

सर्वांल्लोकान् सुसंहृत्य सभूतान् सचराचरान्। पुनरेव तथा स्रष्टुं शक्तो रामो महायशाः॥[ VR- 5.51.39]

देवासुरनरेन्द्रेषु यक्षरक्षोगणेषु च। विद्याधरेषु सर्वेषु गन्धर्वेषूरगेषु च॥ [VR- 5.51.40]

सिद्धेषु किन्नरेन्द्रेषु पतत्त्रिषु च सर्वतः। सर्वत्र सर्वभूतेषु सर्वलोकेषु नास्ति सः॥ [VR- 5.51.41]

यो रामं प्रति युध्येत विष्णुतुल्यपराक्रमम्॥ [VR- 5.51.42]

Annihilating all the worlds including the elements, their created beings, as well as the entire mobile and immobile creation, the highly illustrious Sri RAma is capable of creating them over again in exactly the same way. (39)

Among gods, demons and the rulers of men as well as among the Yakshas, ogres and serpents as also among the VidhyAdharas (celestial artists), NAgas, Gandharvas (celestial musicians) and beasts, Siddhas and the rulers of Kinnaras, nay, even among the birds, in all places, in short, among all created being at all places and times there is no one who can fight against RAma, the equal of Vishnu in prowess. [40-42]

ब्रह्म स्वयमुभूश्च तुराननो वा |
रुद्रस्त्रिणेत्रस्त्रिपुरान्तको वा |
इन्द्रो महेन्द्रः सुरनायको वा |
त्रातुम् न शक्ता युधि रामवध्यम् || [VR 5.51.45]

Either Brahma with four faces or Rudra with three eyes, the Shiva, or Mahendra the god of atmosphere and sky as also the lord of celestials would not be able to protect the one to be killed by Shri Rama in battle.

Lord Shri Ram killed many dreadful fierce animals in Shri-Mad Valmiki Ramayana for example Maricha and his companions, all in disguised form of fierce, brutal animals confronted Lord Ram, then Lord Ram showed his valor and killed his companions. There after Maricha became very fearful of Lord Ram's valor and so Maricha praised first Valor of Lord Ram in front of Ravana. He warned Ravana not to plan anything against Lord Ram, otherwise whole demon clan will be eliminated.

Mareecha praising Valor and Glory of Lord Ram in front of Ravana
Maricha is very fearful by the valor of Ram and telling his story to Ravana when Ravana approached him for help to abduct Maa Sita:

दीप्त जिह्वो महादंष्ट्रः तीक्ष्ण शृंगो महाबलः |
व्यचरन् दँडाकारण्यम् मांस भक्षो महामृगः || [VR 4.39.3]

We disguised ourselves (VR 4.39.2) in form of gigantic carnivorous animal with a torching tongue, incisive teeth and excruciating horns, and with an extraordinary energy, I was on the rove in Dandaka forest while getting at Shri RAma.

ऋषि माअंस अशनः क्रूरः त्रासयन् वनगोचरान् |
तदा रुधिर मत्तो अहम् व्यचरन् दँडका वनम् || [VR 4.39.6]

On becoming such a brutal animal I (Maricha) have been eating the flesh of sages, frightening the forest dwellers, and in that way I rambled in Dandaka forest besotted with blood-drinking while reaching Rama.

When Maricha and his companion demons in form of brutal animals approached Lord Ram.. Lord Ram released arrows to kill them, though Maricha had become devotee of Lord, so lord spared him:-

तेन त्यक्ताः त्रयो बाणाः शिताः शत्रु निबर्हणाः |
विकृष्य सुमहत् चापम् सुपर्ण अनिल तुल्य गाः || [VR 4.39.11]

Stringing out his highly magnificent bow Rama then released three excruciating and enemy eliminating arrows which in their egress match the Air-god and the Divine-Eagle Garuda. [VR 4.39.11]

As I (Maricha) have earlier seen the fear caused by his arrow I am in the know of Rama's valour, hence I retreated from there trickily and gingerly, but the other two demons were killed. [VR 4.39.13]

When I was somehow exempted by the arrow of Rama I regained lifespan, and when that arrow made me to renounce everything like a monk and fled me to this place, the other side of ocean to where you came by your aircraft, here I am living here in a yogic way, self-collectedly like an ascetic. [4.39.14]

वृक्षे वृक्षे हि पश्यामि चीर कृष्ण अजिन अंबरम् |
गृहीत धनुषम् रामम् पाश हस्तम् इव अंतकम् || [VR 4.39.15]

From then on wards, I am indeed descrying RAma at this tree and at that tree, dressed in jute-cloths and black deerskin, and handling his bow like the Terminator handling a tether.

Even at a place void of people I am envisaging Rama alone, and oh, king of demons, even if he enters my dream, in fact, I am jolting up and swooning. [VR 4-39-17]

रामः च हि महातेजा महासत्त्वो महाबलः |
अपि राक्षस लोकस्य भवेत् अन्तकरो अपि हि ||[ VR 3.39.23]

Definitely Shri RAma is the one with exceptional resplendence, exemplary courage and extraordinary power, and for sure, he becomes an eradicator of the world of demons.

माम् निहत्य तु रामो असौ अचिरात् त्वाम् वधिष्यति |
अनेन कृत कृत्यो अस्मि म्रिये च अपि अरिणा हतः ||[VR 3.41.17]

That Rama will soon kill you, Ravana after killing me, and I will be dying at the hand of my enemy rather than at the hand of my own clansman like you, whereby the purpose of my life will be brought to an end.

रामो विग्रहवान् धर्मः साधुः सत्य पराक्रमः |
राजा सर्वस्य लोकस्य देवानाम् इव वासवः || [VR 3.37.13]

O' Ravana, Shri RAma is the embodiment of righteousness/Dharma, he is an equable person with truthfulness as his valour, and as with Indra to all gods, Shri Ram is the king of whole universe.[3-37-13]

What an splendid praise done by even a demon!

So following verse of Rigveda 1.154.2 praises the valor of Lord Ram (Maha-Visnu) and Shri-Mad Valmiki Ramayana expounds it as already explained in above posts.

प्र तद्विष्णुः स्तवते वीर्येण मृगो न भीमः कुचरो गिरिष्ठाः ।
यस्योरुषु त्रिषु विक्रमणेष्वधिक्षियन्ति भुवनानि विश्वा ।।
( ऋग्वेद १।१५४।२)

Whole universe is situated in three steps of Lord Vishnu. Whole world praises (स्तवते) the valour of Lord Maha-Vishnu (Shri Ram) as like fierce, and mighty (भीमः) animals (मृगो: beast/animals, Hanuman, Angad, Sugreeva, etc) living in mountainous-caves (गिरिष्ठाः) of forest praises his valor.

In Rig-Veda 1.154.2, I have shown the supremacy of Lord Ram (Maha-Vishnu) whose valour is praised and eulogized by fierce and mighty Vanara-s: Hanuman Ji, Sugreev Ji, Vali, Angad etc and Riksha-s like Jambvant Ji etc. The Rig-Veda verse 1.154.2 clearly says that Purusa culminates only in Raghunatha Ji as Shri Ram's valour is praised in all Loka-s.

Now we will see the verse of Rig-Veda where Lord Ram and Maa Sita is clearly mentioned:-

Shri Ram and Maa Sita in Rig Veda

भद्रो भद्रया सचमान आगात्स्वसारं जारो अभ्येति पश्चात्।
सुप्रकेतैर्द्युभिरग्निर्वितिष्ठन्रुशद्भिर्वर्णैरभि राममस्थात्॥ (ऋग्वेद १०।३।३)

श्री रामभद्र (= भद्र) सीता जी के साथ (= भद्रया) [ वनवास के लिए ] तैयार होकर (= सचमान ) दण्डकारण्य वन (स्वसारं) में जब आये थे (= आगात्) , तब (= पश्चात ) कपट वेष में कामुक (= जारो) रावण सीता जी का हरण करने के लिए आया था (= अभ्येति ), उस समय अग्नि देव हीं सीता जी के साथ थे ( अर्थात स्वयं सीता माँ अग्नि में स्थित हो चुकी थी राम जी के कहे अनुसार), अब रावण के मर जाने पर , स्वयं अग्नि देव हीं सुन्दर चिन्हों और देदीप्यमान वर्णों से सुशोभित-सीता के साथ (= सुप्रकेतैर्द्युभिरग्निर्वितिष्ठन्रुशद्भिर्वर्णैरभि) [सीता का निर्दोषत्व सिद्ध करने के लिए] श्री राम के सम्मुख उपस्थित हुए (= राममस्थात्) |

When Shri-Rambhadra (भद्रो) along with Sita (भद्रया) came to the forest (=स्वसारं) named Dandakaranya, then in disguised form the lustful Ravana (जारो) came to abduct Sita, but (at that time) Sita was with Agni-Deva (and Ravana abducted Maya-Sita). When Ravana was killed, then Agni-dev along with Maa Sita who was well adorned with auspicious marks and refulgent with own splendours, came in front of Lord Ram (राममस्थात्).

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